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Old 21 February 2010, 10:22 PM
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Question prodrive replacement discs

hi, is their anyone out their making replacment bells and rotors for prodrive four pots?? how much will they cost ??

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Hi
Yes I can supply you my 2 piece discs and bells to fit the Prodrive Alcons , they are £395 a pair , when these wear down you only need to buy the outer rotor as you re-use the bells again , replacement rotors are then £295 a pair.
I can also supply you the Ferodo DS2500 pads for £140 a set , P&P is £15



Cheers Ian
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Originally Posted by Ian Godney
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Yes I can supply you my 2 piece discs and bells to fit the Prodrive Alcons , they are £395 a pair , when these wear down you only need to buy the outer rotor as you re-use the bells again , replacement rotors are then £295 a pair.
I can also supply you the Ferodo DS2500 pads for £140 a set , P&P is £15



Cheers Ian
can anyone give me some feed back on this item. anyone use them for track days?? don't AP or PF do rotors and bells for alcon brakes?? i need some thing that is going to take alot of punishment
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Ours can take as much abuse as anything , but at a lower cost , I supply lots of these 330mm discs for rally cars as well , plenty of Impreza's running around with these fitted so someone will give you feedback on them.
The discs I make for these , has the same bolt pattern as an AP disc , so you can also have these bells with AP discs , these cost £595
Cheers Ian
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yes Performance Friction do an inter-changeable 330x28mm that is compatible with the AP fitment Ian describes above............

alyn

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Old 24 February 2010, 02:42 PM
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I have a set of these.
Had them on track recently and performed brilliantly no fade at all and superb breaking force
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Originally Posted by Ciaran
I have a set of these.
Had them on track recently and performed brilliantly no fade at all and superb breaking force
are you talking about the godspeed bells and rotors or the PF ones ?? their has been a few people on here complaining about the godspeed rotors warping or the bells not fitting properly i don't want that kind of hassle myself thanks for your reply
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I bought Godspeed replacement rotors for my AP's and had good service from Ian and they look great quality. Also a hell of a lot cheaper than what Demon Tweaks wanted for genuine AP ones.

I havn't used mine in anger yet though as the car is still off the road.
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Originally Posted by malpas1977
are you talking about the godspeed bells and rotors or the PF ones ?? their has been a few people on here complaining about the godspeed rotors warping or the bells not fitting properly i don't want that kind of hassle myself thanks for your reply
How rude !

By the number of discs we sell , thousands a year , we are bound to get the odd few back on our anti warp guarantee , and most of the time it would be down to sticking calipers , and I certainly can't remember the last time I had a two piece disc and bell warp.

And as for bells not fitting , only one alleged case of this , and after sending the customer out a new pair , I never gor his others ones back to see the problem for myself , so dont know if there was a problem with it.

If you have a look at my feedback on here , it pretty much speaks for itself , I'm sure there are other offering discs for your setup , even the original one piece ones from Prodrive

Cheers Ian
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Originally Posted by Ian Godney
How rude !

By the number of discs we sell , thousands a year , we are bound to get the odd few back on our anti warp guarantee , and most of the time it would be down to sticking calipers , and I certainly can't remember the last time I had a two piece disc and bell warp.

And as for bells not fitting , only one alleged case of this , and after sending the customer out a new pair , I never gor his others ones back to see the problem for myself , so dont know if there was a problem with it.

If you have a look at my feedback on here , it pretty much speaks for itself , I'm sure there are other offering discs for your setup , even the original one piece ones from Prodrive

Cheers Ian
lol im not being rude just want to make sure what i am buying is not going to loose me any track time. as for the solid prodrive discs !! no way will i fit these again, would rather go back to my old set up subaru 4pots g88 discs with 1166 pads this worked very well i have a heavy foot and keep craking discs i just want to make sure i dont have this problem again. i would not slate anything i have never used, im not that kind of person. regards
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Originally Posted by malpas1977
are you talking about the godspeed bells and rotors or the PF ones ?? their has been a few people on here complaining about the godspeed rotors warping or the bells not fitting properly i don't want that kind of hassle myself thanks for your reply

I have had my Godspeed rotors fitted about 25k of hard driving. They have performed perfectly. Starting to warp a little now although they are nearly fit for the bin now as they are worn to the extent that there is nearly no grooves left. I personally would reccomend them. Just make sure your disks are all nice and free and they w3ill be fine. If they do warp Ian will replace them for free.
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We can supply proper 2 piece curved vane discs which work a treat.

Call me or or email. 01462 488244 or aztecperformance@gmail.com
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Originally Posted by Ian Godney
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Yes I can supply you my 2 piece discs and bells to fit the Prodrive Alcons , they are £395 a pair , when these wear down you only need to buy the outer rotor as you re-use the bells again , replacement rotors are then £295 a pair.
I can also supply you the Ferodo DS2500 pads for £140 a set , P&P is £15



Cheers Ian
I'm going try your bells and rotors and like you say i can always change to the AP rotors if need be will i need to send them to you for balancing when replacing the rotors ?? how much can you do me the rear discs for ?? same groove pattern as the fronts. i have 1pot with vented discs (uk turbo2000) i use mintex 1144 pads on rear currently paying £84 can you do a deal on all three items ?? regards
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Regarding the 2-piece PF discs, are they lighter than OEM discs or same weight?
I am a bit worried about those little screws holding the 2-pieces together, can they take so much stress?
What's the dimension of these screws?
No offence meant , just worried!
Cheers

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Originally Posted by malpas1977
I'm going try your bells and rotors and like you say i can always change to the AP rotors if need be will i need to send them to you for balancing when replacing the rotors ?? how much can you do me the rear discs for ?? same groove pattern as the fronts. i have 1pot with vented discs (uk turbo2000) i use mintex 1144 pads on rear currently paying £84 can you do a deal on all three items ?? regards
Hi
You wont need to send them back to us for balancing , as they will an exact fit and wont be a sloppy fit between the discs and bells , I work to a thousand of a millimeter lol.
I can supply you our grooved rear discs and Mintex M1144 pads for £150
If you want to ring me tomorrow on 01656 723060 we can sort your order our , have it all in stock

Cheers Ian
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Originally Posted by fpan
Regarding the 2-piece PF discs, are they lighter than OEM discs or same weight?
I am a bit worried about those little screws holding the 2-pieces together, can they take so much stress?
What's the dimension of these screws?
No offence meant , just worried!
Cheers
Hi
The 2 piece discs and bells will be lighter than the one piece discs , I did weigh them once but can't remember the difference.
The bolts are 6mm , high tenstile allen key bolts with an all metal locking nut , have never had a problem in 18 years making them.
Hope this helps
Cheers Ian
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Originally Posted by fpan
Regarding the 2-piece PF discs, are they lighter than OEM discs or same weight?
I am a bit worried about those little screws holding the 2-pieces together, can they take so much stress?
What's the dimension of these screws?
No offence meant , just worried!
Cheers
mmm I'm thinking that if the pattern of Ian's rotors are the same as AP's this must mean the bolt holes are the same !! meaning the bolts are the same diameter Ian's may have smaller heads on them but I'm pretty sure they work just as well if not i can always ask for AP ones

thanks for your information Ian reasonable price on rear set up. i will call you when I'm ready to order the front and rear together busy with work at the moment so not got much time to start messing regards
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Originally Posted by Ian Godney
How rude !

By the number of discs we sell , thousands a year , we are bound to get the odd few back on our anti warp guarantee , and most of the time it would be down to sticking calipers , and I certainly can't remember the last time I had a two piece disc and bell warp.

And as for bells not fitting , only one alleged case of this , and after sending the customer out a new pair , I never gor his others ones back to see the problem for myself , so dont know if there was a problem with it.

If you have a look at my feedback on here , it pretty much speaks for itself , I'm sure there are other offering discs for your setup , even the original one piece ones from Prodrive

Cheers Ian
I've bought these exact same discs from Ian.
I've took some thinking before buying and eventually decides this was the best option.
I couldn't be more wrong.
The payment and shipping went as expected. Compleatlly normal. Wich is hard to find these days...!

When i installed the discs (on a proper expert), I found that the fitting of the bells were not plug and play...

The inside radius of the bells that adjust to the car is to big to allow proper fitting on the outside diameter.

I had this fixed but just creating a chanfer on the car part itself.

After this the discs properlly fit.

I also installed new ferodo ds2500.

Now on normal braking the car brakes normally like with the prodrive disks i had.
But after a few hard and long brakings i get vibration on the brake pedal.
I'm not a trackday guy, so this is not too problematic as this only happens after 4 or 5 long and hard braking.

I'm waitting for the pads to end to have the disks remachined...

I told all of this to Ian and he asked me to resend him the discs. As I live in Portugal and this meant that I had to pay almost 100£ just for the shipping I decided to blame this on myself for not buying original prodrive one.

If someone got another set of disc buy complaining exactlly the same as i did, i cant understand the diference of treatment between costumers.

As for me, I'm not sure I'll make the same disks choice, but maybe i was just unforntunate about this pair.

These seam like good discs, great finishing, ian seems a decent guy, but after all this sayed, i have poor braking...

(sorry for my english...)
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Sorry , but I do not understand why you say the bells are not fitting , its the first I have heard you say this , we make the same bells for this kit for everybody , on our CNC machine , no one else has problems fitting them on , the only time that anything would need to be done , is to look at the shimming of the brackets , when the Alcon kit was supplied new , they came with a series of shims , that may or may not needed to be fitted in between the brackets and hub assembly , as far as I could see there is a variation in the original Alcon discs , which these shims dealt with.
If when you fit the new discs I supplied , if the calipers are not exactly centered on the discs , the pads will be a very tight fit in one side of the calipers , which will overheat the discs , and warp it very quickly , I include a fitting sheet which explains this , we have had a couple of customers who had this happen because of incorrect fitment , which they sent the discs back to us to true up again , now , after correct fitting they are running with no problems.

I ask you to send the discs back to me to check as this is what I believe is wrong with yours , it cost me £40 to send them to you , so dont know why you say its £100 to send them to me , if you had sent them to me , I would have covered the cost of sending them back to you.

Another point , if your saying you have vibration in the brake pedal , if its only the pedal that vibrates , its usually a rear discs that has warped , if a front disc has warped the steering wheel will shake. But if your saying that it happens after an amount of time and not all the time , then it could be something other than discs , a ball joing , wheel bearing , bush , as you get heat build up due to driving and braking hard , it doesn't automaticaly point to a warped disc , have you checked the runout on the disc ?

If the disc was warped I would say you would feel it all the time , even driving slowly

I stand by all my products , and will sort out any problems should they arise , its just a shame in this instance that you are in a different country which makes it more arkward

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hi ian can you supply the shims ?? iv not got any on mine as the prodrive discs i have fit center with out the need of shims. whats that guy mean grind away what to make them fit gosh £100 return post.who dose he have to send them back to ?? ebay Ian over to you.
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Originally Posted by malpas1977
hi, is their anyone out their making replacment bells and rotors for prodrive four pots?? how much will they cost ??
The Prodrive disks aren't 2 piece though are they, don't look like it on the Prodrive site?

Thanks,
Sam
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Originally Posted by Saalro
The Prodrive disks aren't 2 piece though are they, don't look like it on the Prodrive site?

Thanks,
Sam
i know that the prodrive are 1 piece discs that's why i asked for
replacement bells and rotors. best to read from the start.
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