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Old 12 May 2010, 03:26 PM
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Default Vredestein Ultrac Sessanta

http://www.ultrac-sessanta.co.uk/

anyone using these?

thinking a set of 4 to go on my new wheels for the STI hatch.

245/40/18 (97Y)

been given price for £107 each fitted/valves etc
Old 12 May 2010, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by rb5 286
http://www.ultrac-sessanta.co.uk/

anyone using these?

thinking a set of 4 to go on my new wheels for the STI hatch.

245/40/18 (97Y)

been given price for £107 each fitted/valves etc
Mark,

Do it, they are quality, had them on my last 2 scoobs and on the 4motion golf.
Old 12 May 2010, 03:47 PM
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they are good tyres . just hard to get hold of in all of the common sizes at the mo
Old 12 May 2010, 08:10 PM
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they have 21 in stock in my size

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Old 12 May 2010, 09:26 PM
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fair play
Old 13 June 2010, 06:19 PM
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i dont rate them so much they were on my car when i bought it and all 4 vredestein tyres bubbled in 2 or 3 places on the inside tyre walls after a drive too essex and back
Old 13 June 2010, 06:23 PM
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out of interest, what made you check the inside tyre wall of all your tyres after a trip to essex. And if the tyres are still newish, perhaps vredestein would replace them.
Old 13 June 2010, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Conn3h
i dont rate them so much they were on my car when i bought it and all 4 vredestein tyres bubbled in 2 or 3 places on the inside tyre walls after a drive too essex and back
Find that hard to believe tbh based on how thick the sidewalls are Pics please.
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Well the car startted juddering like hell on the motorway so I took the wheels off too check for damage n saw my tyre Walls had bubbled on the front 2 Tyres so I had them replaced then a week later the rears did the same they arnt that old and have been sent back too vredestein for some kinda inspection I think I took a pic of 1 of the Tyres I'll try n dig it out later but it wasn't just 1 bubble they all had at least 2 n the worst had 4
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Surprised you still had any wheels left after a trip to Essex
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I have them on my spec c and i am very impressed with them, they give great grip and no tramlining although they do tend to give a little more road noise than Toyo T1R's or Bridgestones, but i can live with that as my exhaust drowns that out anyway.
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See if the pics had a manufacture date. Something like 4409 in raised letters on the tyre. This denotes 44th week of 2009. If they were old or old stock could explain it ? Have the same wheels been used for the replacement branded tyres ? Be good to know the pressures you run too.
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Originally Posted by Conn3h
Well the car startted juddering like hell on the motorway so I took the wheels off too check for damage n saw my tyre Walls had bubbled on the front 2 Tyres so I had them replaced then a week later the rears did the same they arnt that old and have been sent back too vredestein for some kinda inspection I think I took a pic of 1 of the Tyres I'll try n dig it out later but it wasn't just 1 bubble they all had at least 2 n the worst had 4
Did you get your geometry set up at the same time and what car/wheel size are you using?
Just weird how your car suffers from this and no one elses

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Originally Posted by rb5 286
http://www.ultrac-sessanta.co.uk/

anyone using these?

thinking a set of 4 to go on my new wheels for the STI hatch.

245/40/18 (97Y)

been given price for £107 each fitted/valves etc
Yup .. I've had a set. Great tyres IMO. Came marginally second in a 'tyre shootout' run by Evo Magazine a year or more back to the Goodyear Asymetrics .. for which I am now on my second set.
Old 14 June 2010, 07:22 PM
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Superb tyre! Love em more than i did the Asymmetrics from Goodyear. I get the best 40mph grip i have ever had!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOLOL
No they are a very good tyre and so are the Goodyears too.
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How do you rate the sidewalls? Im using Toyo T1s and with my setup, which is aggressive, the key flex is the sidewall, which you can feel bending over. My firend has a similar view on his Evo, again with an aggressive setup.

And yes it is the tyres, so would appreciate views- I see they offer an XL sidewall?
Old 14 June 2010, 09:22 PM
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The T1-S is a soft compound tyre, more so than the T1-R they do. I am sure my Sessantas are XL. Will have to look tomorrow.
Old 14 June 2010, 09:25 PM
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I think they are T1r's- T1s is no longer made (or vice versa).

The Vredestein are on list 1a for the MSA, which is what I need. So are Re070's which is another option, but fancy some wet weather grip too
Old 14 June 2010, 09:31 PM
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Wet weather performance is superb with either Sessantas or Asymmetrics from Goodyear.
Old 16 June 2010, 11:51 PM
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how do people compare the sessantas to parada's, i have parads on at the mo and they are terrible in the wet especially roads with a fair bit of standing water.
Old 24 June 2010, 10:45 PM
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i find the sidewalls stiffer on the Vredesteins compared to the Asymmetrics i had on before, can notice any difference in grip though, haven't really pushed them to the limits yet though
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I have just gone from 225 45 17 (32psi fr & 30psi rr) Dunlop Sport maxx tyres to 235 40 18 (34psi fr & 32psi rr) Ultrac tyres, without no change in geometry the car is now a lot more twitchy? I have been advised that a geometry set up will sort this out?

Outright grip on the Ultrac is GREAT, I think that the side walls/carcass feels softer than the Dunlops.

Great tyre
Old 02 July 2010, 10:15 PM
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Twitchy as in really quick to change direction or as in vague and floaty?
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Put these on for my recent trip to the ring and they were fantastic in the wet and dry
Old 03 July 2010, 09:50 PM
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Which Scoob did you put these on Conn3h?
I was going for these next, however, I'm interested in your comments.
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How do the vredesteins compaire to the falken fk452?
Old 04 July 2010, 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by b0x
Twitchy as in really quick to change direction or as in vague and floaty?
As in .... any high speed driving on an A road or motorway and the car can move greater than expected? on the brakes in particular the back end can feel like a pendulem?

I am gonna get the car set up done again to see if this helps, Richard Bulmer drove my car last Wednesday and commented on the twitchy feel, I mentioned the new wheels and tyres because it only started when these were fitted, he reckoned more camber & toe would sort it out

Does turn on a six pence though when needed
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Are the new wheels the same offset / widths?

New tyres often feel a bit wafty as there's a lot of block movement compared to worn tyres, but that shouldn't translate into twitchy. I hope you get it sorted soon.
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Originally Posted by b0x
Are the new wheels the same offset / widths?

New tyres often feel a bit wafty as there's a lot of block movement compared to worn tyres, but that shouldn't translate into twitchy. I hope you get it sorted soon.
Thanks fella, I am gonna go back to Richard Bulmers and take him up on his offer for a full set up > sorry for going off subject
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I've had my set of Ultrac Sessanta 225/45/17 rears and 215/40/17 fronts for less than a year; i've put less than 2000km on them and I noticed a huge bubble on the inside of left rear. Went back to the shop i got them; they said i must've had some huge pothole or something. I don't recall such a thing!

Should I try calling Vredestein or it's hopeless?


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