scoobyrichuk

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I know this question has been asked before and there is plenty of info on the forum already but I have a few specific questions. I have a MY99 Turbo 2000 with stock brakes/pads etc and they need changing asap. I've decided I'm going to try and source some 2 pot rears + godspeed grooved discs with ferodo ds2500's for the rear brake upgrade as it seems to be a relatively cheap and effective option. I have noticed some brembo 2 pots for sale on here but I'm not sure if they're worth the extra. The fronts are giving me a headache, the 8 pot k sports look great but I'm worried about support after. Where do you buy new discs for them? How many pads are made for them and where can you buy them? Are all these bits easily sourced as if they are they look good for the money. If I was to go for the godspeed kit I'd have to get my 4 pots refurbed + buy some decent pads/braided lines which I'm working out to cost slightly more than the k sport 8 pot kit with ferodo ds2500's. The car is mainly used on the road and I am planning the occasional trackday. Currently running 240bhp with a td04 but I have a new exhaust system/vf35 waiting to be installed so I should be looking at 300bhp soon. Anyone with experience of these kits who has any advice to offer would be gratefully received.

Saalro

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I've got 8 pot 356 MM on the front and 4 pot 330 MM on the rear, they do look too good lol.
I've just recently fitted them so i'm not braking hard yet so i can't comment but i read Ian from Godspeed said:

"The 335mm kit I make totally transforms the braking power of the WRX and brings it inline with an AP 330mm 4 pot kit in terms of performance , but obviously at a cost , although it works out more than standard sized discs , its no where near the cost of the AP caliper kit , I can supply you this kit for £550 including delivery at the moment , and you can choose various pad compounds including the brand new EBC bluestuff pads."

If you only plan to use you car on track occasionally and keep it at 300 BHP then i think the Godspeed kit and some good pads would be more than fine.

Problem is K-Sports are very affordable and for the extra £££ you get the looks and extra braking power, but you want to upgrade from the stadard K-Sport pad as apparently they aren't so good.
On the negative side i've found that the pads sit about 0.5/1 MM to high on the disc on K-Sports, they overlap, but i've been told by Apex that this is not a problem but then someone else told me "The pad will bind on the disc lip once worn imo ", i'll find out eventually but i hope it not to be a problem, lots of people run the K-Sport kits and i've heard nothing on it.

Thanks
Sam

Aztec Performance Ltd

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Once you look at the true costs of the K-Sports vs the bigger disc option you will find that it is better to go with the K-Sports.

Your Subaru 4 Pot calipers are worth around £150-200 depending on condition.

Pad options for the K-Sports are pretty good with the very popular Bluestuff NDX compound available for just £108.55

Hope it helps.

www.superhids.co.uk

Tel: 01462 488244

leesta

K-sports all the way

Is you get the godspeed kit your only end up buying k-sports in the end like i did

scoobyrichuk

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I've ordered a k sport 8 pot 330m kit (going to buy some ebc bluestuffs when they're available I'll have to make do with the k sport pads for a week or two) and also bought some 2005 wrx 2 pot rear calipers + discs off here so next week when it's all fitted I should have some pretty reasonable braking power

Aztec Performance Ltd

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bren@apex

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Four points to note:

1) Replacement 330mm and 356mm rotors are £299 a piece and are generally in stock.

2) There is a massive range of aftermarlet pads availabe for the KSport kits, you dont need to worry on that score.

3) We now have our own default pad to go with KSport brake kits. These have nothing to do with the KSport factory. They are only available through KSport UK and our dealers and they should not be compared to the KSports own default products.

We went to a very large performance brake manufacturer, chose one of their existing pad compounds and had them make us our own pads to be used as default. KSport UKs default pads are actually of use not only as a fast road pad but also as an occasional track pad.

4) Different pad manufacturers produce compounds that sit in slightly different places. We have never had the slightest issue with a slight pad overlap. However the new KSport UK default pads sit absolutely perfectly with maximum rotor face coverage and no overlap. We also stock the new Bluestuff pads in a size and shape that also sit perfectly.

Our new default pads:



FYI James Grint has won his class in the 2010 BTRDA rally championship in his KSport brake equipped Mitsubishi Evo

http://www.btrdarally.com/

Godspeed Brakes

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I have in stock the Bluestuff pads for these calipers as well ,

Bren
By my reckoning James finished 7th in the championship , and that was probably helped by his brothers wand

IainMilford

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I'm running the godspeed kit on my car, along with ferodo pads all round, braided lines and decent brake fluid makes for a huge improvement over standard. I'm running around 330bhp and have been on around 6 track days this year and the brakes have worked well with no signs of fade.

bren@apex

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To clarify, he won his class, Im not saying he beat ex WRC cars and the like in WR1 class.

Godspeed Brakes

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The car in front OA was an Opel Manta , still James did well , but I still think his brother wand helped lol

bren@apex

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Silverstone Tyres Gold Star Class B13 Driver
Rounds ...
POSN 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 TOTAL
1 James Grint Kimpton 17 17 - 15 20 16 1 20 105*
2 Gary Cooper Crockey Hill, York 18 18 - 17 1 20 20 1 94*
3 Neville Jones Stone - 1 - 16 - 17 18 18 70
4 David Wright Nr Lancaster 1 20 20 20 1 - - - 62
5 Shaun Gardener Ludlow 20 - 18 18 - - 1 - 57
6 Simon Rogers Radlett - 1 17 1 - 18 17 - 54
7 Simon Dowdeswell Lyneham 14 - 15 - - 1 15 - 45
8 Gary Kenna Stoke On Trent 16 1 - - 18 - - - 35
9 Robert Dennis Cricklade - - 16 - - - 16 - 32
10 Simon Morton Lymm 15 1 - - - 15 - - 31
11 Keith Thomas Calne 1 - 1 - - 14 14 - 30
12 Alan Mayhew Stainton, Penrith - 1 - - - - - - 1

I just looked at the above.

What OA?

Godspeed Brakes

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OA means Over All sorry , I seen you have edited it now , but originally you put that he won the championship , he didn't he won the class ,

In the overall championship , its not just WRC cars that beat him , 6th OA was an Opel Manta driven by Jon Ballinger.

He did very well to win his class though , so the above was just to correct your original mistake and nothing more

Cheers Ian

bren@apex

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I reffer to each class winner as a championship winner, championship meaning the overall year rather than an individual event. As such there are multiple championship winners, one per class.

I dont look at James competing against the other classes, neither the ones above nor the ones below.

But no matter, its sematics, I wasnt trying to make out that hed beaten all cars in the overall event.

bren@apex

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His brother is Rupert Grint in case youre wondering why Ians reffering to wands. Rupert Grint is Ron Weasley from the Harry Potter series

stockcar

so exactly what 'spec' are these new pads compound wise?? or most similiar material to??

MY94BlueWRX

In my opinion... regardles what this James Grint did or didn't do, you can't compare gravel rallying with track/circuit racing, as they are totally different in terms of braking requirements.

The loads put on the brakes round a repetitive circuit are far greater than in rallying, especially gravel rallying.

Definetely look at your application before deciding what to use, we have passed the limit of a lot of 'so called' track performance brake kits (Ian Godney's excluded).

bren@apex

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Hes running 304mm so its a small kit and rally cars, running on gravel or not, give their brakes a really hard work out.

And either way, it was just a snippit of info, there are a large number of high power track cars out there running KSports if you want to do a like for like comparisons of your potential use and the use the brakes are being put to.

Heres a quote fom you, just had an email from a customer wanting a kit for his TVR Sagaris. We dont list one but I told him Id ask the factory if theyd be interested in developing one. This was his reply:

bren@apex

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They were chosen to be an alternative to the DS2500 performance wise.

EH52WRX

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How the **** cares Ian. Another vote for Ksport.

Toffee

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If you can aford 6 pot APs imho

bren@apex

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KSport will have a demo top end competition track car out helping to prove the product in 2011. A very high power Impreza. Watch this space.