New tyres, front or rear?
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Got to have one new tyre.
So I've ordered a pair, one for the spare, which is pretty naff, one for the knackered one, (yes, I run a full-sized spare.)
So, when I get them back, new pair on front, or rear?
All tyres have approx 6mm tread left.
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So I've ordered a pair, one for the spare, which is pretty naff, one for the knackered one, (yes, I run a full-sized spare.)
So, when I get them back, new pair on front, or rear?
All tyres have approx 6mm tread left.
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I was always led to believe that new tyres went on the back, something about it being better to see where you crash, rather than going in ****-first....
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True, but as the fronts do most of the work re cornering and braking, with better tread on the front, you're arguably less likely to crash as you wil have better grip when braking
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Should be fine as the fronts are still running with 6mm tread. Putting the new ones on the rear will reduce the risk of an oversteer situation as the rears would grip better than the fronts (all other things being equal); as the general consensus is that understeer is 'safer' as it is easier to correct for the average driver, this is what they would recommend I guess
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I always stick to putting the best tyres on the rear (nothing to do with me doing a 360 spin on a cold slippery road in a 440bhp RWD car whilst tottering around at 30mph
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Reasoning being in emergency situations (aquaplaning or emergency braking) oversteer maybe less pereferable despite what the powerslide heroes say. Sometimes there isn't room on the road to mess about trying to hold a tank-slapper.
Second probably more important reason, is the rears on a AWD/FWD car typically last alot longer. So you are left with perished manky rubber sat on the back of the car for twice as long as the front. Even though they have loads of tread, the grip will be poor especially when the weather is cold and damp.
Only yesterday I saw a car with perished tyres showing the cord on the sidewalls...the data stamp was 27th week of 2007. So less than 5yrs old! OK they were naff brands (Camac), but even good brands can go off the boil after 5yrs on the car. The rubber on the Pirellis on my Golf were cracking within 3yrs before I binnned them as they were rubbish.
So stick the old tyres on the front, finish them off, then stick another pair of new ones on.
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Reasoning being in emergency situations (aquaplaning or emergency braking) oversteer maybe less pereferable despite what the powerslide heroes say. Sometimes there isn't room on the road to mess about trying to hold a tank-slapper.
Second probably more important reason, is the rears on a AWD/FWD car typically last alot longer. So you are left with perished manky rubber sat on the back of the car for twice as long as the front. Even though they have loads of tread, the grip will be poor especially when the weather is cold and damp.
Only yesterday I saw a car with perished tyres showing the cord on the sidewalls...the data stamp was 27th week of 2007. So less than 5yrs old! OK they were naff brands (Camac), but even good brands can go off the boil after 5yrs on the car. The rubber on the Pirellis on my Golf were cracking within 3yrs before I binnned them as they were rubbish.
So stick the old tyres on the front, finish them off, then stick another pair of new ones on.
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With the power/torque you are running, put them on the rear, although my preference would be the front, once scrubbed, IMHO, you are less likely to get into trouble in the first place...
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New tyres should always go on the rear so the front slides before the back and you dont have any nasty Lift off oversteer.
If you have more grip at the front, the rear lifts and changes ends.
Vicki did an article on 5th gear about this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5YsQ_a_ijA
If you have more grip at the front, the rear lifts and changes ends.
Vicki did an article on 5th gear about this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5YsQ_a_ijA
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Cant argue with video proof, although i still would choose the fronts personally.
That video has raised another question. For all of us that have different tread patterns front to rear, the same senario could arise even if all tyres were the same tread depth, purely because one tread design could shift water faster than another !
So, ideally all 4 tyres should be the same item.
That video has raised another question. For all of us that have different tread patterns front to rear, the same senario could arise even if all tyres were the same tread depth, purely because one tread design could shift water faster than another !
So, ideally all 4 tyres should be the same item.
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New tyres should always go on the rear so the front slides before the back and you dont have any nasty Lift off oversteer.
If you have more grip at the front, the rear lifts and changes ends.
Vicki did an article on 5th gear about this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5YsQ_a_ijA
If you have more grip at the front, the rear lifts and changes ends.
Vicki did an article on 5th gear about this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5YsQ_a_ijA
LOL just looked at that vid and I recognise those treads patterns - as they were the tyres that contributed to the cause of my 30mph spin....they are P-zero Rossos.
The irony here is they are terrible tyres to use in the wet or cold regardless of being new or not
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What has that video got to do with a car with a 4 wheel drive system ?
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P.S. People "our" age were brought up on oversteer, in the snow I lost "her" Jeep and didn't even need to think about correcting the slide, I just did it !
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P.S. People "our" age were brought up on oversteer, in the snow I lost "her" Jeep and didn't even need to think about correcting the slide, I just did it !
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