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Old 08 October 2012, 09:28 PM
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Just removed my pads from my porsche calipers and these fell out......




They have two strange looking bits that sit inside the ceramic piston. I cant see them in these pics......

http://www.powerstation.org.uk/porsche_brakes.asp


Any ideas, guessing i need to keep them for my next pads ?
Old 08 October 2012, 09:33 PM
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Armoured Nipples ?
Old 08 October 2012, 09:37 PM
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Shims to stop brake squeal and stop the pad sticking to the caliper......I think,lol.
Old 08 October 2012, 09:37 PM
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dampening plates/anti rattle shims


http://www.rogerclarkmotorsport.co.u...productID=2289
Old 08 October 2012, 09:43 PM
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where are you getting replacment pads from matey? i rang powerstation and they were not very helpfull really,they said they need to send 10 pairs off at once so they cant just sell me 1 set?
Old 08 October 2012, 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by the shreksta
where are you getting replacment pads from matey? i rang powerstation and they were not very helpfull really,they said they need to send 10 pairs off at once so they cant just sell me 1 set?
Thanks buddy, I'll put them back in with new pads then.

Pad wise, powerstation said they can supply me with Pagid black for £299 plus vat.
I've spoken to AS performance who can do a set of brembo pads at a good price and also Aztec who can supply EBC at good prices. I tried Godspeed via here and email and got no reply whatsoever so won't be using them.
I'm just waiting to here back from a pal who races an M3, he reckons he can source a set at a decent price so will let you know.
I also found out that any pad I choose will need machining to fit the caliper.
Old 08 October 2012, 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by MattyB1983
Thanks buddy, I'll put them back in with new pads then.

Pad wise, powerstation said they can supply me with Pagid black for £299 plus vat.
I've spoken to AS performance who can do a set of brembo pads at a good price and also Aztec who can supply EBC at good prices. I tried Godspeed via here and email and got no reply whatsoever so won't be using them.
I'm just waiting to here back from a pal who races an M3, he reckons he can source a set at a decent price so will let you know.
I also found out that any pad I choose will need machining to fit the caliper.
yeah i know the pads will need machining, mine are due to be replaced and im really struggling to find replacements,roger clark motorsport want £395 + vat for the pads and like i said powerstation were not helpfull at all
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Give AS performance a shout, maybe he'll do a deal on two sets at the same time. Unlikely but worth a try.
Think he said he could do a set of brembo pads already machined for £245 delivered.
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Originally Posted by MattyB1983
Give AS performance a shout, maybe he'll do a deal on two sets at the same time. Unlikely but worth a try.
Think he said he could do a set of brembo pads already machined for £245 delivered.
now that is a deal i would be interested in,have you got contact details? have you brought your pads yet?
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Or Aztec offered EBC Bluestuff already machined for £299
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Originally Posted by MattyB1983
Or Aztec offered EBC Bluestuff already machined for £299
are they ok for fast road? i am gonna contact these people 2moro and see if i can get a deal on 2 sets if you want mate
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Originally Posted by the shreksta
now that is a deal i would be interested in,have you got contact details? have you brought your pads yet?

http://asperformance.com/


I've not bought any pads yet but am tempted by the Brembo's if my pal doesn't come good.
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Originally Posted by the shreksta
are they ok for fast road? i am gonna contact these people 2moro and see if i can get a deal on 2 sets if you want mate
See what you can do and PM me.
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Originally Posted by MattyB1983
See what you can do and PM me.
ok matey will do,where you getting your discs from? also powerstation tell me i only need 8 dampening plates but rcm say i need 12? powerstation say you dont need them on the middle piston
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Originally Posted by MattyB1983
http://asperformance.com/


I've not bought any pads yet but am tempted by the Brembo's if my pal doesn't come good.
Are these the hp sport pads? I've heard good about them
Blue stuff IMO I wouldn't want for good braking, they have initial bite but that's about it, not good for driving hard IMO.
Old 08 October 2012, 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by bustaMOVEs
Blue stuff IMO I wouldn't want for good braking, they have initial bite but that's about it, not good for driving hard IMO.
Bluestuff are a fast road/ race pad, So i was told from godspeed when i bought them

Just checked, thought i was right.

http://www.larkspeed.com/index.pl?c=...PAD&s=category

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Originally Posted by addi monster
Bluestuff are a fast road/ race pad, So i was told from godspeed when i bought them
Have you taken them to their limits?

IMO, I don't like them, ok for normal driving but not good when driving hard they tend to go off after a while and not preform good throughout, and that was on a drive going downhill on b roads, and no my fluid never boiled, pedal was still there just with no bite left until cooled down.

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Originally Posted by bustaMOVEs
Have you taken them to their limits?

IMO, I don't like them, ok for normal driving but not good when driving hard they tend to go off after a while and not preform good throughout, and that was on a drive going downhill on b roads, and no my fluid never boiled, pedal was still there just with no bite left until cooled down.
Cool a rally pad that cant rally

http://www.larkspeed.com/index.pl?c=...PAD&s=category
Old 08 October 2012, 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by addi monster
IMO!
I've pushed them myself and as said imo ask Jura he will give you his take on them too
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Originally Posted by the shreksta
ok matey will do,where you getting your discs from? also powerstation tell me i only need 8 dampening plates but rcm say i need 12? powerstation say you dont need them on the middle piston
Discs from powerstation at £190 plus vat each. Mine will go again so won't be changing them.
Mine only has 8 plates so will stick with that.
Old 09 October 2012, 09:09 AM
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dis is a fairly std AP disc...... its only the pads that are a bit oddball because of the "mis-match" of the kit

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Old 09 October 2012, 11:29 AM
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EBC Bluestuff NDX is a fast road pad. In this Porsche caliper setup (which is very good) they work well. Tried and tested on the same setup on our own car. Pads work differently in different caliper setups - the Porsche calipers are very good at managing heat and aren't comparable with the same pads in Subaru 4 Pot Calipers or Brembos.

EBC Orangestuff are also the same price, one stage up, improved bite and fade resistance but you lose a little on the cold performance.

We use the same custom pads on our own car so can ensure the correct fitment based on our own diagrams.
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you've lost me there Bob's, surely if you have the Porshe kit on your Porshe there is no requirement for the "custom" pad required by the P/S type set-up......
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If you are using 2 piece discs, then yes there is a requirement for a custom pad.
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Originally Posted by Aztec Performance Ltd
EBC Bluestuff NDX is a fast road pad. In this Porsche caliper setup (which is very good) they work well. Tried and tested on the same setup on our own car. Pads work differently in different caliper setups - the Porsche calipers are very good at managing heat and aren't comparable with the same pads in Subaru 4 Pot Calipers or Brembos.

EBC Orangestuff are also the same price, one stage up, improved bite and fade resistance but you lose a little on the cold performance.

We use the same custom pads on our own car so can ensure the correct fitment based on our own diagrams.
And that's all I'm saying, didn't rate them in brembos or 4 pots compared to the other pads in the market, but don't know about the ap Porsche calipers so you may be right.
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Have you got a pad number for those blue stuff EBC please Mr Aztec ??

Reason I ask is a friend who races an M3 knows Bob at EBC. We called him today and he asked for a pad number of which I have no clue. He also said the pads don't need any machining but after reading your above post I realized I forgot to mention I had 2 piece discs.

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There is no part number as such as they are custom pads
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Originally Posted by Aztec Performance Ltd
There is no part number as such as they are custom pads
Oh I see, thanks buddy. I know it's a bit cheeky but if I can get them direct from EBC then that's the route I'll take as will probably save a few quid.
I'll try Bob again tomorrow now I'm better informed.

Thanks mate.




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